Posts by Bubblegum Apotheosis

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Real Life Person, name and work changed

Elder Joe, works as a building designer, he makes $275,000 per year, gives his elderette wife a nice way of life. Elder Joe after twenty fives years of marriage, meets a nice secretary at work, he committs adultry and she won't take him back. His confession is too much for her to deal with, not just one extra-maritial affair, but many. Elder Joe is disfellowshiped, leaves his wife with little money, she ends up on Welfare, until the Court forces an equitable solution(If there is such a thing).

Elder Joe, now finds JWN and decides to teach his ex-wife,all the new insights he has learned from the Internet. Sister exwife, who received monetary help, a swarm of comfort from the sisterhood, free baby sitting and yard work. Do you think Elder Joe's new found insights from JWN and the web, will sway this sister on his side? He really tried to get his ex-wife to accept the Organization's short-falls, after pulling this sh(T on her. Other sisters who saw the love and kindness, are deeply impressed on this sisterly love, even though it is displayed to a few circuit players only.

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A WAY TO SAVE THE 32 PAGE "AWAKE" MAGAZINE! ADVERTISEMENTS!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

print magazines had to remake themselves around 2002, making themselves thinner, with more succinct articles.

in 2005-2009 the newspaper companies, magazines had to find more advertisers to stay afloat.

as i am writting this thread, there is a "i am a mormon ad" on the side bar.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Print magazines had to remake themselves around 2002, making themselves thinner, with more succinct articles. In 2005-2009 the Newspaper Companies, Magazines had to find more advertisers to stay afloat. As I am writting this thread, there is a "I am a Mormon Ad" on the side bar. What if the Watchtower put advertisements for "Lexepro, Risperal, Haldol, Prozac, Ambine, Xanax, Diazepam, Wellburtin"

More Ads from "Nike (the AIR WITNESS") or Asics "Gel Service Shoes" New Balance "The Do Not Call" a shoe for quick retreats.

"Old Spice Deordant" gift packs, to share with ill brothers and sisters with odor problems.

"Wild Wheel Chairs" for getting out in field service, when your legs don't feel like moving. Elderly, Crippled

"Moving Mattresss or the portable "Ionic Iron Lung" --- A guilt free solution for bedridden publishers, providing freedom to preach door2door!3

Pepper Spray, for dangerous RVs.

"Social Security Disability Lawyers"

What kind of Ads could generate the most revenue? Huge potential!

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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

by slimboyfat in

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as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?

why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?

it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

This thread would not have been enjoyable without djegg, he is not calling anyone "apostates" is he? Jesus preached to the Pharisees, Sadducces and Scribes, knowing only a few were going to listen. Some Bible scholars teach Jesus Christ preached to the demons, after rising from the dead (Peter). Djegg knows about JWN's ability to attrack wide group of inviduals, with various personal likes and dislikes, makes this site so addictive.

If djegg is a troll, what benefit is he gaining by sharing his Bible views and areas he agrees with the Organization? , Djegg has not retreated like most unread dubs, is it possible he likes us? I fear we are over using the word "Apostate" and turning it into "Shibboleths".

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Would this t shirt get you in trouble

by slimboyfat in

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i met a jw in town yesterday while i was wearing this t shirt.

it didn't even occur to me it was a problem because it is a joke , but he seemed really annoyed about it and kind of cut me short.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/mans-true-evolution-birthday-present/dp/b006fy58zm/ref=sr_1_10?ie=utf8&qid=1332946372&sr=8-10.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

ROFLMAO! I love Ray's T-shirt best, where do we order these works art? I would love to buy a few, and gift them to the "Time-minators". LOL!

The brothers had to counsel the secretary, ave jane doe would return after six months of being ill, "Hi Jane, I need your Time!!"

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has anyone tried to "study" and get baptized again in a far away congregation?

by Sofi in

....so you didn't have to go through the process of being reinstated?

please, share your experiences!

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Bubblegum Apotheosis

Interesting question, a pedophile might attempt this method of getting close to young children again. Strange couples or individual publishers would show up, give a false name or bogus congregation, only to leave before their real name is discovered. There was a disfellowshiped couple from the North, who showed up to our Hall with no money or job. We soon discovered after a month they were dishonest, conmen who played the brothers and sisters for a nice sum.

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How Far Would You Go To Steal A Bible Study From A New Pioneer?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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once upon a time there was a new brother named dave.

dave was new to the faith, and once he was baptized, he started to aux pioneer, and he finally made it to a "regular pioneer", sometimes "special pioneer hours".

dave had a very good feel for a certain demographic, he success rate was tremendous, and his ability to understand scriptures, remember society literature, did not go unnoticed by certain jealous shepherds.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Some elders avoid studies at all cost, and field service, yet remain elders? They must have ten kids and creative field service accountings, will provide 18 hours a month?

Yes, this brother is a sociopath, he is able to lie before any servant of God, without a blush or any type of facial tick, thrives off suffering.

The Pious-Sneers do receive potential studies from busy elders, or a family member who has the courage to call a Kingdom Hall, where a new potential study has moved. This religion creates a very self-absorbed way of life, it's more about the individuals prominence in the Org, instead of helping the "whole" of the congregation. Why do you think many Pioneers will only work with they own kind? No time for the weak or widows!

The emphasis on "Time, Placements, Converts" creates a selfish "me first attidue" with the ones who are suppose to be supporting the ones Apostle Paul said "to watch over, to guard, to care and upbuild the weak and widows, and orphans". Why, I wish I knew why we are a very self absorbed group, who are to concerned with our personal theocratic monthly numbers. We not a sales force, are we?

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Does anyone else think there is less and less JW and religious content on this site each year?

by yadda yadda 2 in

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i may be wrong but it seems that with each passing year the number of real jw and religious related threads gets less and less on this site..

Bubblegum Apotheosis

It would be interesting to know how many individuals who frequent JWN, changed from a "theist" to some type of modest theist, " Agnostic, Deist or Atheist", the more atheist and deist, the less talk about religion? Does not help the new ones, who are looking for anwsers from a religious viewpoint, but it would be nice to know how many still think there is a God, or something. Why not start some new threads on religious subjects?

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How to beat and control your wife: a new Muslim marriage book!

by Terry in

a local bookstore has sold out of a controversial marriage guide that advises muslim men on how to beat their wives.. .

the 160-page book, published by idara impex in new delhi, india, is written by hazrat maulana ashraf ali thanvi, whos described in the books foreword as a prolific writer on almost every topic of islamic learning.. .

the stores manager, who didnt give his name, said the book had been sold out for some time, and the stores owner, whom the manager identified as shamim ahmad, refused to comment for the story.. .

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Terry, and all, watch or rent, the movie "The Stonning of Soraya M", I cried about this poor Iranian woman, who was wrongly accused of adultry, because her husband wanted a 15 year old rich girl. A true story written by a French/Iranian newspaper reporter. Islam is cruel to woman "God made Eve stupid" according to the Quran, why expect humane treatment?

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

1. She still believes its the "Truth" of all truth.

2. Possible, is she might have lots of friends, who are good to her, and she does not want to lose them.

3. Ignorance is bliss, and this is the path of least resistance, when your whole life revolved around the W.T.S.

4. The wife does not accept what her husband tells her, and have her own freedom of conscience to decide.

5. What is the wife is aware of her spiritual need, but her husband now become's an atheist, figuring if "JWs did not have the truth, nobody does! How will leaving the WTS aid her with her quest of becoming more attune to her spiritual side?

6. How many Ex-Elders on this forum have you meet who attend church each week? Almost none, most ex-elders are deist or atheist, this might explain why a woman does not leave as well, she does not want to become a deist.

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How Far Would You Go To Steal A Bible Study From A New Pioneer?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

jw
friends

once upon a time there was a new brother named dave.

dave was new to the faith, and once he was baptized, he started to aux pioneer, and he finally made it to a "regular pioneer", sometimes "special pioneer hours".

dave had a very good feel for a certain demographic, he success rate was tremendous, and his ability to understand scriptures, remember society literature, did not go unnoticed by certain jealous shepherds.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Once upon a time there was a new brother named Dave. Dave was new to the faith, and once he was baptized, he started to Aux Pioneer, and he finally made it to a "Regular Pioneer", sometimes "Special Pioneer Hours". Dave had a very good feel for a certain demographic, he success rate was tremendous, and his ability to understand scriptures, remember Society literature, did not go unnoticed by certain jealous shepherds. A brother named "Biblestudystealer" would undermine Dave's efforts by visting studies after Dave would leave. "You know, I am a elder, I could help you understand scripture better, Dave has only been with us a year." The study took the bait, another study took this elders bait! Dave had been told by BS-Stealer not to poach studies from the older elders, "its not very cool, it's just wrong" and dave obeyed.

When confronted on this issue, BS-Stealer elder, lied and said "your studies came to me, said you were not as qualified as me to teach". The repeated lying by BS-stealer about Dave's conduct, poisoned the majority of the BOE. 90 percent of the BOE were in fear of "BibleStudyStealer"elder, who was not afraid to threaten with force, his own ideas how the congregation should be run. Called before the BOE about his pathological lying problem and his heinous conduct with "Dave", only three stood up to this Bully. The three were told to "quite down, cover it up, it's not a big deal, he does more for the circuit than most bodies, with his time and money" Dave left to join another religion and BS-elder is alive and well, in fact "He was out in field service sharing the Good News last weekend".

Is this type of conduct possible within Jehovah's Organization, or is this man an "agent of Satan"? I can't think of any other group of men, who would try to destroy the "whole", the way "BS-Elder" has systematically stumbled many dubs out of the Organization. I can count twenty people he has chased out of the organization, just to boost his ego! A very sad man, I wonder if he even reads the Bible and knows what Jesus Christ was talking about, or is he aware of his own millstone or two, hanging around his neck?